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Card counting is not illegal anywhere in this country. Jersey, which long ago banned casinos from barring card counters from playing at the blackjack tables.


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While counting isn't illegal per se (in most places), that doesn't mean you'll get off scot-free if you are suspected of doing so. Read on to find out.


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No, it is not illegal to count cards as long as it is JUST YOU doing it without any technology, and you don't use any trickery or signals or anything else to.


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card counting is NOT cheating. Card counting is simply using your brain, like a winning chess player. Fortunately, using your brain is still perfectly legal in the US!


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Card counting is NOT illegal under federal, state and local laws in the United States as long as players don't use any external card-counting.


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Not gonna happen. Sounds like fraud to me. Hot Network Questions. This case presents a conflict between two inconsistent public policies that have developed over the years with regard to the gaming industry. You also know that one of those thousand is capable of card-counting. This isn't cheating in any sense of the word. This strategy calls for the big player to "table hop" in a seemingly random fashion but actually based on signals from his teammates. If you are too good you get thrown out. So "bet management" is a key skill in the game. Only if you've used a counting device, or properly cheated etc, but then they also throw you in jail after taking back the money : Of course, there's nothing to say you aren't going to suffer a few accidents "falling down the stairs" on your way out of the casino I'm still not convinced. Viewed 91k times. What card counters mostly do is to vary their bet sizes in their own favor. Tom Au Tom Au I heard that the house edge on a person playing by basic strategy was much lower than that; an eight-deck game with no additional rules benefiting the player like hitting split aces or dealer must hit soft 17 has a house edge of about. Some casinos use them, but most seem to prefer making a fuss about card counters. They are allowed to take "defensive" measures such as shuffling up after every deal. Then they "jump" their bets by five or ten times to take advantage of these situations, and bet a "basic" unit at other times, shifting the odds in their favor. TimLymington: If casinos were "even money" against a handful of "best" players and favorites against everyone else, they'd be ok. Just a little addition to the previous answer: Imagine you have the opportunity to play blackjack against a thousand people. Casinos have the right to deny service to anyone, and of makes sense to deny players from playing a game in which they have an advantage versus the house. This flaw and thus card counting can actually be neutralized in two ways: Shuffling manually after each hand - but that slows down the game and thus reduces casino winnings on the game that already gives them a rather small house edge. This is a form of "trolling. Meaning that if card counters were forced to "flat bet," they would lose. Needless to say, "trolling" and "table hopping," whether or not for the purpose of making money, while not illegal, are socially gauche. Linked 4. Card counting isn't considered illegal. But card counters overcome this advantage by betting big on certain "good" hands and betting small on most other "bad" ones. The new moderator agreement is now live for moderators to accept across the…. And the assumption is that most people would not engage in that kind of behavior unless they are card counting. Is that all there is to it, or is there a valid gameplay justification for this? Michael Borgwardt Michael Borgwardt 2 2 bronze badges. As far as I can see, a card counter is still subject to the same mechanic as any other players, but they are able to perform better then most people within these confines. You wouldn't risk your money betting against someone with such an advantage would you? Card counting ISN'T illegal. I was under the impression that if all players play by what the casino deems are the accepted rules, then statistically, the players collectively are essentially bound to lose to the house. Actually, it is not the "mechanic," that makes for card counting. Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. Featured on Meta. On the other hand, neither card counting nor the use of a legal subterfuge such as a disguise to gain access to this table game is illegal under Nevada law. On one hand, gaming establishments have the unquestioned right to protect themselves against so-called "card counters" who have developed expertise in the game of "blackjack" "twenty-one". As a slightly off topic followup, do casinos typically let you keep what you won if they do catch you card counting? EpsilonVector: If casinos took bets where they didn't have an edge, they'd go out of business. Active Oldest Votes. You'd stick with the odds, and play only the other A perfectly sensible and logical position, which is, in essence, the same position the casino takes. Why is card counting considered illegal in Blackjack? That's just a theoretical construct. Yes, even if the game was precisely even; the mathematics is interesting. Active 5 years, 6 months ago. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. They may have the right to choose not to play with you, but the games in which they did play with you should be considered legitimate, right? OK this actually makes sense. See my answer below. So casinos will eject players for that kind of behavior alone, whether or not connected with card counting. So why is card counting a justification for casinos to kick people out? Card counters exploit a flaw in the game implementation which is not actually part of the rules of the game. What card counters do is to watch for a handful of situations that come up occasionally, where the player is favored.

It only takes a minute to sign up. This is further reduced with fewer decks in the shoe. Well, the very odds of the game are per se in the casino's favour -- it turns out they're not a charity : If you want to play a fair game, simply don't go to a simple blackjack c in the first place NeilCoffey: What you said is basically true, except that the best players can beat the game by varying their bets at appropriate times.

But Nevada courts do tend to side with the casinos for economic reasons. KeithS: It used to be more like 0. I believe that if you have won it legally, they cannot take it back. Obviously, blackjack counting illegal card counter will cost them money, but if that is the only justification, then it's like the casino is cheating- they only allow sucky players to play.

Card counter Kenny Uston won a court case in New Jersey that prohibits Atlantic City casinos from barring or harassing source counters.

It is negative against blackjack counting illegal skilled card counter who varies his bets. You have a few advantages, but also have to play by strict and predictable conventions, but the thousand can play in any manner they choose.

EpsilonVector EpsilonVector 1 1 gold badge 2 2 silver badges 6 6 bronze badges. The rules of blackjack say nothing about dealing multiple hands from the same pre-shuffled stack - but that's exactly what makes card counting possible. It is some fraction of 1 percent depending on house rules against a "skilled" player who plays optimally but doesn't vary his bets based on card-counting.

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TomAu But isn't that essentially if "the appropriate blackjack counting illegal are derived by "card counting" or methods that the casino decides "aren't fair" on their scheme of making a living off an unfair game? As entertainment goes, blackjack game with bad.

That's the point of counting cards. Casinos pretend that they let you gamble in a game that has certain rules, but if you use skill to win, then you are not allowed to play, even if you play within the confines of those rules. TomAu Or by "beat the game" do you mean beat the other players?

Continuous shuffling machines - but players and dealers hate those, claim that they destroy the atmosphere, etc. Ask Question. Unless you use a "device" such as a computer to do so in Nevada, which is a felony under Nevada law.

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I understand that.